AB: And now more than ever we need artistic endeavours to balance out sort of –
DM: The powers of evil?
AB: Well, I don’t want to live in a city where people don’t matter. There’s a threat of everything we care for being taken away – bike lanes and libraries. Sometimes words aren’t enough. But art thrives where people are trying to stamp it out. I’m the person that Ford doesn’t know. We’re not insane hippies or hoodlums. We’re just average people trying to get by.

JCF: Where was the greatest place you’ve ever been?
AB: Thailand was the most beautiful, but Kenya was the most defining place. That’s where I felt the greatest presence of humanity.
JCF: I think people are the most beautiful things, and the most inspiring. I think there’s a sense of that in Toronto.
AB: The city’s just a different thing now. I think we’re all tired of being overworked and under-loved. There’s a revolt against cynicism.
DM: There’s been a huge shift and our generation’s bathing in it.